WWCraven Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 This seems to be the first coop mission built for the new format that I've seen, I've downloaded it but haven't yet tried it. If interested in trying it yourself, here's the info; https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/34928-coconut-coops/ Hi all, This topic contains missions I've made for the coop mode: CoCoop1.zip Kuban map, 3x IL2m43, 2x A-20, 2x Yak7b, 3x Spitfire, 4x Bf109g4, 2x Bf109g6. Germans cover ships to Taman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spardog Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) To fly this coop mission as an individual, you must have BOK installed and have the planes included in BOK. ' Here are photos which display what I am seeing when I attempted to create coop server: 1. No plane available [attachment=5]IMG_0734.JPG[/attachment] '2. Nada [attachment=4]IMG_0735.JPG[/attachment] 3. [attachment=3]IMG_0737.JPG[/attachment] 4. [attachment=2]IMG_0739.JPG[/attachment] 5. Fakes you out with Loading, Please Wait, Screen [attachment=1]IMG_0741.JPG[/attachment] 6. Next screen is no mission but it is a black screen with three words on the left side telling you RETURN TO LOBBY'. [attachment=0]IMG_0742.JPG[/attachment] Of course, I'm sure that I could fly the coop if' the planes I have in BOS/BOM were included. But, as the UPDATE''' is created now, I don't have the aircraft, nor maps. Nice business plan for the Russians though. All the dollars I've spent purchasing BOS/BOM are just a waste of money since WW does not create missions using their maps. Won't be long' when BOK will be obsolete and Jason will have folks paying for the next UPDATE. Hell, he is advertising another version and he has not got BOS, BOM or BOK working right. Whereas, in Cliffs of Dover, for example, an update comes and everyone gets the maps, planes, missions, without being screwed financially. Edited March 18, 2018 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWCraven Posted March 18, 2018 Author Share Posted March 18, 2018 What can I say? I'm sure that over the next while people will be making coops for the Stalingrad and Moscow maps so I don't see how you would consider what you currently have to be a waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spardog Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 What can I say? I'm sure that over the next while people will be making coops for the Stalingrad and Moscow maps so I don't see how you would consider what you currently have to be a waste. But, currently, the pilots are not WW!! How many BOS, BOM maps or missions have been created by WW that we now fly? None that I know of! I have to wait until a squadmate becomes available during the week to practice flying a BOK map. Think I'll go dropkick the cat for a while until I finish this grouch session. Here, kitty-kitty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWChunk Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Spar, I’m all for being a grouch, hell, it’s basically my second job, I really don’t know what to tell you here. I don’t agree with the business model, as it costs a fair amount of money, but I think it’s a lot to ask for all this new stuff to come out in this update, then expect a lot of new missions for BOS/BOM. Additionally, it’s impossible to compare BOX to CloD, as the latter was developed and never completed until TF came along. If Oleg had succeeded, you would’ve seen the same scenario we’re faced with now. Bullshit or not, this will be the model going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWSittingduck Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Guess this is a good time to make a long overdue apology. I should never have assumed that "NO ONE" will want to fly co-ops. But, keep all this in mind: Once the mission starts, everyone picks their plane and hits ready. You just sit on that screen till you assume everyone that is going to come to play has arrived, and has picked their plane and hit ready, and then the host hits start. Once start is hit, no one else can join. If someone comes in 2 seconds late, you can either restart the mission again, or tell them they have to wait. If someone bumps into another pilots plane during taxi and damages the planes, they are out. Again, you can either restart the mission, or tell them they have to wait till everyone else is finished. There is no respawn in co-op. Imho, co-op has no value whatsoever. If you want to fly DiD, you can do it in a TDM mission, and you have to option of making allowances for stupid occurrences. And, as the host is the one who hits start, I am not even sure if COOP's can be run from the Dserver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWGeezer Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Only comment I would say, is its worth poking around to see how it develops. In the old hyper lobby days we used to fly both co-ops and dogfight missions. I think the difference was the co-ops tended to be short sprints with very defined targets. If someone crashed or came late right at the start we would just restart. They ran as dead is dead, but we could run two or three a night, so if you died you watched everyone else fly the quick mission and you knew you would get another chance to fly in 15 or 20 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spardog Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) It's nearly eleven o'clock and it's time to climb out of bed. Wife's at church and the rain has stopped. Things appear brighter. The cat is a little skittish this morning, but after feeding him his favorite meal, he has at least stopped giving me the evil eye. Gentlemen, I want to apologize for my "howling at the moon" lament written earlier in the morning, but when you reach age 75, being grouchy and bemoaning your plight in life is a side effect of being a senior citizen. My late friend, Gale, once told me, "Ron, we had our turn." Hard to admit that it may be true. If I wish to continue to fly simulations the path forward is clear. Edited March 18, 2018 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWGriphos Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 I don't know anything about anything, particularly about missions; but from what it sounds like, I'm sort of with Duck on this one Seems to have disadvantages, and I'm not seeing the advantages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWGeezer Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 okay....here is the closest metaphor I can give you. You and your buddies all have their favorite bar. Everyone knows where everyone is suppose to sit. You all sit down in your spot and order a drink. If you are late you might not get a seat or may have to wait for the next round. Geezer slips off the stool by accident and falls on the floor, spilling his drink all over himself. Everyone laughs and calls out " Okay, Hap, you better restart the server, Geezer screwed up again." I get back on my seat, everyone orders another drink and we go fly. ( not arguing for or against, I just miss Happy having to restart the server almost every time) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWChunk Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Co-ops have been a HUGE part of the WW’s history, at least since 2004, when I got here. Some of the best times I’ve had here were in Cephas’ Friday night co-ops. Don’t knock ‘em until you try ‘em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spardog Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 If you wish to practice and you do not have BOK installed, no WW is awake, or is available here is a Dogfight server which will allow you to practice. NEW WINGS - Wargrounds: Trains [attachment=0]New Wi'ngs.JPG[/attachment] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWGriphos Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Co-ops have been a HUGE part of the WW’s history, at least since 2004, when I got here. Some of the best times I’ve had here were in Cephas’ Friday night co-ops. Don’t knock ‘em until you try ‘em. Fair enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spardog Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) [quote=WWSpardog ...If I wish to continue to fly simulations the path forward is clear. *sigh* Purchased BOK this morning. Then changed graphics settings similar to Craven's (That was a very GOOD move as the game display was much better ). Will try out the Coop he wrote about in another thread. Edited March 21, 2018 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWSittingduck Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 ...If I wish to continue to fly simulations the path forward is clear. Well, don't give up on that server key, cause the new maps are going to keep coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spardog Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Co-ops have been a HUGE part of the WW’s history, at least since 2004, when I got here. Some of the best times I’ve had here were in Cephas’ Friday night co-ops. Don’t knock ‘em until you try ‘em. @ Chunk: Attached are some of Cephas' IL2-1946 Missions [attachment=0]Cephas_IL2_Missions.zip[/attachment] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWChunk Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Thanks Spar. I had a ton of them installed, but I uninstalled the old IL-2 a few months back. Best ROI in any game, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWSittingduck Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 If anyone wants to get on 30 mins early, I have one of Coconut's coops on the server, but can not get it to start. Might start with 2 or more players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spardog Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 It's 5:09 PM in San Diego. I am on TS if you wish to start now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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