WWSittingduck Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 pure speculation here, but think it's safe to assume when bombers went in for a run, they had plenty of intel and recon info which may or may not have factored into their ingress route heading. So, if there are targets that are well suited for a High alt level bombing run, would be nice to have as much intel on that target as possible. Know well before hand what heading to target might maximize the damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWGeezer Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 I think we have leaned on Frylock's expertice in Gold Flight. He is able to jump into a mission, take take a look at the map and do his noodling work on the fly. What the rest of us do is fly in tight formation and when he calls his drop we count off a second and we drop. This is great for us, but if Fry takes a night off, I know I am personally in trouble. I vote for a high alt training night. I think Fry would be happy to do it sometime. Only other comment, if Cephas tells us ahead of time it will be a map like last night and I can get into the mission builder to look at the mission, happy to do some hi tech recon and post some subtle photos for targets, I enjoy doing that and it helps a bit with the immersion as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWGeezer Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 oops. reading these in reverse order.....sounds like Frylock has already pitched this idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWCephas Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Do not be intimidated by high alt bombing, with just a little familiarity it is pretty easy to locate and set up for a good run. The trickiest part is if windage is involved, and if you can alt tab in game there is a web page app that will give you the wind values you need to enter quickly and easily. https://spiff.ddns.net/il2bcalc/ If High Alt bombing is the major target of a mission I try to get you guys all the info or get someone to do a recon run to post pics in advance, but when bombing targets are a secondary part of a mission it is too much time and effort to do a full briefing. I am sure Frylock will get all of you up to snuff in short order with very few training missions. If anyone cannot make training when Frylock is available I can also help you with it and I am available pretty much all the time. I have a couple missions I can easily modify to make a training mission with the following assumptions: No flak or AI fighters. Choice of all level bombers. Air start at multiple alts and angles of approach to target. Moderate wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWZed Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 We need the mosquitoes in order to do pathfinder duties using Oboe. Perhaps this could be simulated with a large fire set at target, giving a bombing point to allow better aiming from 5000 meters… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWFrylock Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 That's the real trick, without recon info I don't know what the target looks like or how it's oriented. If its a long skinny target I would like to know how it's oriented to calc an approach heading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWCraven Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 What did the Germans use for this purpose if they did at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWDarkdiz Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 They had a system (name eludes me for the moment) similar to Oboe that employed 2 beams. The idea was you flew to the intersection of the 2 beams (beeps on the radio) and dropped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWBiker Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 3 minutes ago, WWDarkdiz said: They had a system (name eludes me for the moment) similar to Oboe that employed 2 beams. The idea was you flew to the intersection of the 2 beams (beeps on the radio) and dropped That was a breakthrough advantage for night bombing I believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWDarkdiz Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Knickebein was its name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWCraven Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I learned something new today, thanks for the info, interesting read on the Knickebein here, https://www.battlefieldsww2.com/radiobeacon-stations-knickebein.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWCephas Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I thought I was done adding targets to the Meuse River Sandbox mission but then you had to post this with a map showing a site near Bergen Op Zoom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now